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Mon, 27th Feb. 2006, 11:01
Weekend adventures

Well that was a very busy and social weekend that was.

Arrived at the [info]ninjagirl's annoyingly late on Friday due to having to stay in Brighton to go to acupuncture. On the plus side, the acupuncture seems to be actually causing my longstanding lurgi to improve finally - I've been ill for over 4 months now, and I'm quite tired of it. This actually seems to be helping, which is more than all the stuff that the doctors have prescribed me over the last few months (and the three entirely different diagnoses I've had...)

Jumped (well crawled) out of bed on Saturday morning to go and collect the lovely [info]jenova_red from the station, drop her stuff off, and then head to Bristol to go to the Zoo with [info]kissycat1000 and family, including [info]ev1ldonut and [info]azekeil.

A pleasant day of wandering in the cold but sunny weather, and taking many many photos followed. As soon as I have five minutes I'll be sticking them up online for your viewing pleasure. Was nice to photogeek with [info]ev1ldonut, although most of it was of the "damn, it's so dark in here and you can't use flash" nature, so it was ISO 3200 all the way, and noise galore I expect... NoiseNinja time for anything worth the effort I suspect :)

We left the Zoo just as it was starting to get a bit more dark and chilly, so the timing was good. Then back to Hanka's for some chilling out and foodage, before heading over to [info]sebastian_lux's housewarming, where after driving round in circles trying to find the house for some time, we ran into [info]kissycat1000 and [info]ev1ldonut just leaving, who were able to point us in the right direction.

The party was most pleasant, was good to put some faces to names I've only previously known on LJ/IRC (who I'm far too vague to list all of right now). I'm glad I skipped the punch, due to driving, and a desire to retain my liver function. I had fun geeking with [info]azekeil and [info]aoakley - happy discussions of the bad old days of the internet pre-aol especially :)

We staggered home quite early due to being knackered after the zoo, which left us time to try and break Jen's brain with only a small selection from Hanka's vast collect of disturbing AVIs. I think she just about survived...

Sunday involved staggering out of bed and putting Jen back on the train to sunny Birmingham, and then heading out to go and look at some cars.


I've been enjoying my Batmobile a great deal for the last 18 months or so, but the change in my lifestyle (being too ill to cycle to work, and visiting Hanka every other weekend or so) has meant I've gone from 500 odd miles a month to more like 1500. At 20-23MPG, this is getting rather painful to afford, so it's got to go :(

I have a long and random list of things to look at, with the main criteria being 'high MPG' and 'comfortable down motorways'. I'm hoping to lose the commuting bit of the equation as my health gradually returns).

The first visit of the day was to the BMW dealer, where I wanted to have a look at some 4/5 year old 320D, 525D and 530D models their website suggested they had in stock. Annoyingly, the only one they actually had there on the day was the 320D, but we did have a chance to have a sit in a similar age, non-diesel 5 series. Unfortunately they also had only one member of staff on duty too, so I wasn't able to take anything for a test drive, but I've arranged to do so the next time I'm in Cheltenham.

I was pretty underwhelmed by the interior of the 3 series, I was suprised how plain and spartan it all was. The 5 series at least felt a bit more like a 'luxury' car, but I was still kinda surprised by how understated it all felt - I think I've got rather spoiled by the interior of the RX-8. The proof of the pudding is in the driving though, so I'm reserving judgement on them until I've had a chance to have a go. I'm not particularly keen on the 3 series from that visit though, so I think the 530D SE, and and the 525D Sport are what I'll be looking to have a test drive in next time.

Then it was off down the road to the Toyota dealer to have a go in the utterly whacky Petrol/Electric Hybrid Prius (yes, I like cars with weird engines). We were able to actually go for a proper test drive in this. It's an odd beasty, it all feels very spaceagey. You get in, stick the keyless entry lump into a hole in the dashboard, and then push a 'Start' button, and lots of lights light up and *nothing* happens. No engine start, no nothing :) Drive off in full electric mode in total silence - as you accelerate hard, or once you get above 30odd MPH, the petrol engine starts automatically (and very quietly) and starts contributing into the mix - when it's not needed, it switches itself off again.

It's very odd to drive, your brain keeps insisting you've stalled it at traffic lights. It's pretty magic round town where you're in electric mode a lot, acceleration from the electric drive is really rather good, and it's all quite nice and nippy. Down the motorway, it's rather more like driving a normal petrol automatic, but it cruises along pretty happily and still has enough grunt to overtake at speed if need be. It does lead to a fairly understated driving style if you want all that potential economy actually delivered.

I remain a bit unsure about the Prius, as round town/mixed driving the economy is fantastic, but it's much less impressive down motorways - and half my reason for doing this is because of doing lots of motorway driving - I hope to lose the round town stuff once my health improves. So a diesel will still beat it for economy on the motorway by some way.

In the near future I'm going to have a play with the VW Golf TDI (preferably with the whacky DSG gearbox as it interests me) and see what that's like. The Honda Accord diesel is supposed to be worth a look too.

Any of you petrolheads have any suggestions for anything else I should be looking at for comfortable, economical, reliable motorway bashing? I have an irrational hatred of Fords for no particularly explicable reason, so don't suggest them :)


Phew, that was a bit epic, zoo photos to follow soon.

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 12:25 (UTC)
[info]jocclepossum

With my extensive knowledge of cars, I personally think you should get a Skoda Octavia. :P

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 12:39 (UTC)
[info]ev1ldonut

It's a shame you have this "irrational hatred of Fords for no particularly explicable reason", they're actually very good at making TDs!

I'd suggest an Audi A4. Good interior, nice looking, reliable. The 1.9TD is a great one to look at. :)

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 12:55 (UTC)
[info]samoth

Yeah, I do realise that their TDs are supposed to be very good. I dunno quite why I hate them so, I think it's that every one I've ever been in has made me go 'god this is dull' - I think it's that they're so popular and hence so ubiquitous. One of the company pool cars is a Focus, so I've driven it quite a bit and been utterly underwhelmed by it. I guess I could be persuaded to try again if there was something worth the effort.

The Audis look nice, and have nice engines and things, but I'm given to understand that the servicing costs are a bit on the astronomical side....

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 13:16 (UTC)
[info]ev1ldonut

Well, my landlord has one, and he's never complained about service costs. But then his has never needed anything doing other than basic servicing, chekc stuff is working right, it is, very good off you go.

But having never owned one myself, I couldn't say for sure. Though I'd be surprised if it was very different to a BMW in sevicing to be honest.

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 13:46 (UTC)
[info]samoth

With the BMWs, the ones I'm looking at would be old enough that it would probably be a 'good independent specialist' rather than a 'main dealer' servicing job, but yeah, I take your point. I'll check into it more tah!

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 12:46 (UTC)
[info]jonnytuna

Swap you for my Diesel Peugeut 205
All the smart kids are driving them!

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 12:56 (UTC)
[info]samoth

Is that the one that keeps being stolen, but then they desert it because they've got bored? Or was that an earlier car?

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 14:10 (UTC)
[info]jonnytuna

The one that kept getting stolen was an Astra 1.8SXi It's a favourite for joy riding kids.
My old 205 is utterly invisible to the crims.
I don't think there's much joy to be had from riding 45 BHP, other than 70MPG.
Have you looked at the Lexus RX400h? Allegedly V8 performance from 2 electric motors.

So you wanna swap cars or what?

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 14:16 (UTC)
[info]samoth

Not *hugely* keen to swap I'm afraid, sorry to dissapoint :)

The Lexus is a honking great 4x4 SUV, which is not really my kinda thing - I believe that it being a hybrid just means you get an SUV that does more than 10MPG, rather than actually something that's economical per-se :)

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 12:59 (UTC)
[info]davefish

I've a Golf TDi, which is reasonably lifty. I can see it being as slow as a dog if you have been used to an RX8 though. It does a massive MPG, especially as mine is a 6 speed beastie, which does 70 at just over 2000rpm in top gear.

The Prius sounds interesting.

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 13:05 (UTC)
[info]samoth

I'm resolved to the fact that I'm not going to be getting anything half as fun to drive as the RX-8, it's just a case of needs must, so being 'slow' isn't that big a deal really. The high MPG at motorway speeds is exactly what attracts me to a good diesel. It's the one real flaw in the Prius, it only gets 35-40MPG at 70+ as far as I can make out, which isn't bad going, but a good diesel does rather better...

The Prius was rather fascinating, if I did more round down/short commutes, I'd definitely consider it harder. I'm still in two minds about it for now.

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 14:30 (UTC)
[info]avoset

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=nissan+figaro&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

It may only have a one litre engine, but damn is it cute :o)

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 14:34 (UTC)
[info]samoth

No, no no, and thrice no. I do not wish something so retro, no matter how cute, thanks :)

What's with this being online thing? That's not like you :) What're you up to tonight/tommorow btw? We've not caught up for a while and I need to talk to you about housey stuff :)

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 14:40 (UTC)
[info]azekeil

Two words: Motor Bike. ;)

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 14:43 (UTC)
[info]samoth

Well that thought *had* crossed my mind - the only slight issue being that I don't actually know how to ride one :)

My cunning theory is that one possibility is to live with buying something fairly sensible and economical now, and lose all the fun of the RX-8, and in the near future learn to ride a motorbike, and then buy something stupid, dangerous and impractical to keep in the garage and take out on sunny weekends....

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 14:47 (UTC)
[info]azekeil

Bah. Piffling detail. You can do a full course in a week and (providing you pass) can jump on any bike you like.

I supposedly subscribe to the boring car, fast bike paradigm, but my boring car only does 20-25mpg as well... whoops.

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 14:49 (UTC)
[info]ev1ldonut

I've been in, and driven, many many cars, and never has one come close to the fun of riding a good motorbike!

I think your cunning theory is a good one, go with it. ;)

(great thing about bikes is that even the big stupidly fast ones can be as cheap to run as a deisel coupé, and more practical in some situations...)

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 15:07 (UTC)
[info]sliding_loopz

perhaps a bike like this. looks a bit damien to me! lol

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 14:46 (UTC)
[info]ev1ldonut

Economical? Yes. Definitely.

Fun? Hell yes!

Comfortable and warm? A big resounding no! Not for anything over half an hour on a motorway! Alright in the summer months, but a nightmare in the winter!

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 14:47 (UTC)
[info]azekeil

*grin*

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 14:55 (UTC)
[info]samoth

Yeah, that much I'd worked out for myself - I have many many years of being a cyclist, so I know all about being rained on and blown sideways on two wheeled vehicles. Admittedly without quite the top speed :) Although even my bicycle has three wheels these days so the blown sideways is less of an issue.

I have a big garage, so leaving something in there for the sunny weekends is plenty possible.

The only other thing that's put me of motorbikes in the past is the general fear of an early and painful death. But I suspect restricting the riding to decent weather would help with that :)

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 14:58 (UTC)
[info]azekeil

I must admit that was a big factor in my decision, but I overcame it. I should really do a post about it so I can refer people to it. To summarise: My dad nearly died on a motorcycle before I was born. I pillioned with an ex-Police Class 1 motorcycle trainer who showed me how to ride safely. I thought I could do it as it made logical sense, and wanted to go around the world on one (bit of a pipe dream really). So now I have a very fast bike, after starting on a much more sensible one.

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 15:02 (UTC)
[info]samoth

Ah right, sorry to hear that.

The 'how to ride safely' bit has always been the interesting one for me - learning how to actually *ride* the thing seems like the easy part of the deal.

With bicycles, over the years I've learnt a lot about how road positioning and awareness and the like make a huge huge difference to your safety and treatment by other road users. I'm guessing there's a whole collection of (possibly quite similar) things to be learnt on a motorbike.

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 15:03 (UTC)
[info]azekeil

Certainly, yes. Next time you're up, I can take you for a ride through town and through the country and talk you through it afterwards if you like, to give you an idea of what you need to do.

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 15:06 (UTC)
[info]samoth

Thankyou - should nice weather and appropriately sized safety gear be available at the same time, I'd love to take you up on that :)

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 15:08 (UTC)
[info]azekeil

Well I can't promise the weather will behave, but between [info]ev1ldonut and myself we have spares of all kit in a range of sizes; helmets included, so yes, not a problem :)

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 15:14 (UTC)
[info]samoth

Bizarrely, I have a full set of motorcycle body armour (of the undersuit variety, rather than the leathers) for one of my other hobbies :)

I'm in Cheltenham quite often, so I'm sure the weather gods will bless us sometime :)

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 15:18 (UTC)
[info]azekeil

Cool. I had forgotten you did that too, but did remember reading about it somewhere..

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 15:48 (UTC)
[info]ev1ldonut

Well if you are about on a sunny day but don't have your armour with you, I think you're roughly about the same size as me, so my leathers will probably fit you well enough. One of us will have a hemlet that fits too. :)

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 14:45 (UTC)
[info]sliding_loopz

my word a car freak!! lol
get one of these!

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 14:56 (UTC)
[info]samoth

I shall remember to offer you that to ride home in, next time you need a lift! :)

Mon, 27th Feb. 2006 15:08 (UTC)
[info]sliding_loopz

wicked! it'll be like being one of the flintstones...